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How quickly time flies as I see it’s over 2 months since our last post detailing how we’d selected an ADC deck crane and Seafarer 3.4m RHIB. Meantime we’ve had nearly 3 weeks of cruising around the Waiheke / Ponui area since Christmas, selecting here due to the ease with which our kids and grandkids could join with us. Weather was mostly fine and sunny, though as seems common now the wind was up a bit. We caught plenty of fish and had a great time. Now we continue with the saga of  our new RHIB.

Bring on the power

My friend Frank and Iput Honda, Mercury, Suzuki, and Yamaha on our list of 15hp 4-stroke outboard power options. Over the years I’ve been a “Yamaha man”, but have also owned Honda and Suzuki while Frank has a lot of experience with Mercury and Suzuki, so we’re happy that any of these engines will meet our needsand turn our focus topoints of difference. While some dealers were very helpful we’refrustratedgetting good information from others.

Question: “can wehave a catalogshowing all the featuresandspecifications?”

Answer: “naa mate all that stuff is on the web these days”, or in one case “naa mate but there’s another dealer just up the road and he might have that stuff”.

Fact 1 – all of the manufacturers print expensive, comprehensive glossy brochures and spend a fortune on advertising.

Fact 2 – theymay be horrified to learn some of their dealers don’t have brochures available for seriousbuyers and in most cases make no effort to inform us about product features.

Fact 3 – yes most of the information is on the web, but have you tried printing it? And yes if I’m going to spend around$5,000 on a product I want a nice glossy brochure.

We finally get our brochures and start an analysis.

Dealer prices offered to us range from $4,895 for the Suzuki to $5,339 for the Honda, but we’re buying on features not price. Several dealers cite supply issues, but in reality all optionsareavailable if not immediately.

We build our spread sheet notingthat each brandhas some unique features,but become increasingly impressed with Suzuki:

-It’s several kilograms lighter than all other options and we feel this weight saving is significant aft ofthe RHIB’s transom where it counts (Suzuki advertise as being “lightest in class”).

–We prefer electronic fuel injection (EFI). Some dealers say this is a disadvantage citing reliability, but EFI was first introducedin 1987 (by Mercury)andin our view that’s long enough to be well proven.

–It has a unique Lean Burn Control System offering increased fuel economy (Suzuki claim an incredible 45 per cent).

–We like the non-start fresh water flushing system (which Yamaha also has).

With Suzuki also offering the lowest price we decide for this option.

Choosing our accessories

Chandlers supply storage covers and engine covers in various sizes and these are essential for protection against harmful ultra violet rays and the elements.

Seafarer fitted a set of Beachmaster pneumatic wheels plus two stainless steel rod holders. We also add a universal tiller extension.

Frank used his Quicksilver for expeditions and carried all his equipment aboard. Our Seafarer will primarily be used as a tender, sowe’ll only carry basic equipment of buoyancy vests, anchor, chain and warp, length of line for towing or other emergencies, orange safety square, bailer, sponge, telescopic boathook marked for depths, knife, inflation pump, basic first aid kit and spare kill switch. Secondarily we’ll use it for exploration or fishingexpeditions whenwe’ll carryadditionalsafety and other gear as appropriate, for example hand-held vhf, mini binoculars, air horn, water and snacks. We’ll also carry aboard Rapport a spare propeller (of a different pitch) with nut and split pin, sea water pump impeller, water pump kit, spark plugs and puncture repair kit.

The Suzuki didn’t arrive in time for our post Christmas cruise so we use a 6HP Mercury 4-stroke we had spare. This had enough power to plane with one aboard and almost plane with two. Since our return we have the Suzuki installed and look forward to trying it out. The Seafarer RHIB is great – plenty of room and very stable and dry.

Cruising update

It’s been great to get cruising again and with summer now underway this can only get better. 

It’s now official that La Nina weather conditions are expected this summer, bringing warmer than average sea and air temperatures (the seatemperature off Kawau is already 20.5d). The downside is La Nina also brings NE winds, increased rain and potentially some cyclonic conditions with the probability of increased thunderstorms. Thesecan be problematic due to sudden and sometimes severe wind direction shifts, so anchor with care to allow for this.

We’ve done two week-long cruises recently, one to the Ponui area and one to Mahurangi and Kawau.

Diane landed this monster 72cm snapper in 35 metres SE of Kawau

You can’t always get what you want

We’ve owned our 16 metreSalthouseSportFisher, Rapport, for two yearsnowand after 177nights aboard find her a capable and comfortable cruiser. But when you buy a pre-owned boat you inevitably make some compromises and a major one for us was not having a large RHIB. We really enjoy exploring areas around our anchorage and ideally wanted a RHIB at least three metres longwith a 15hp 4-stroke outboard and able to be lifted aboard usinga crane. Rapport came without a crane andwith an old Chinese built Takacatinflatable that we rubbished after a few weeks as it had toomany pontoon air leaks to be economically repaired. In any case we didn’t like the Takacat’s inflatable floor limiting movement in the RHIB.

It was December and we urgently needed a dinghy that two of us could easily lift onto ourforedeck cradle, sobought a new lightweight (33kg) Aquapro SLR 2.6m rigid-hulled inflatable andHonda 2.5hp 4-strokeair cooled outboard. We usedthe same outboard during our Med cruising years and found it very reliable and easy to start and lift.But for Rapport this was always a temporary solution and so aided by our best friend and long time boating companion, Frank, we started researching deck cranesand larger inflatables.

We knew this was going to be an expensive project and that making improvements to a boat doesn’t necessarily add value. Atrusted marine broker’s thoughts were that future potential buyers of Rapport would expect a vessel of this size to carry a substantial RHIB and crane, so adding these would increase her sales appeal and value. We didn’t need too much convincing and reassured byhis advice and the prospect of lots morefun ahead decided to proceed.

Finding a suitable crane

It would be possible to lift the new outboard fromthe RHIB using a simple transom-mounted hand-operated winch, unload the other gear and then pull the empty RHIB onto the foredeck by hand, but we’re getting a bit long in the tooth for that and want to be able to launch and retrievethe whole rigwith minimal effort.

The RHIB with its outboard, fuel and gear willweigh about 150kg so we need a24V DC powered crane with a safe working load of at least that. We find plenty of options for large cranes but few for smaller units.

Motor Yacht Services (MYS) are theNew Zealandagent for Brisbane-based Australian Davits and Cranes (ADC)and we find them very helpfulhaving fitted many ADCs with good results. MYS’s owner Dean Ryder checks Rapport and quotes $13,973 plus installation for their 350kgcapacity crane mounted on our starboard side with its standpipe passing through our master berth’s wardrobe down to the keel to support the load. Delivery was quoted as 8 weeks ex factory.

Oceanlift cranes are produced on a bespoke basis in Rotoruaand we find owner Mark Thomson also provides lots of information. Coincidentally the boat owner next to us in the marina is very happy with hisOceanlift. Mark visits Rapport andquotes $13,711 plus installation for his200kg capacitycrane with 6 weeks delivery.

Both units will suit us however the ADC’sadditional capacity will provide an extra safety margin, more future flexibility and enhancedresale value. These factorscombined with the fact that MYS install their ADC craneswhereas we need a separatecontractor to installthe Oceanlift lead us to choose ADC. We expect the installation to take around three days and to costto around $6-8,000.

Which RHIB will suit us best?

We’re looking for a rugged rigid-hulled RHIB about 3 metresin length with room for four adults,able to plane with at least two adults aboard using a 15hp outboard, with generous beam for lateral stability, a snub rather than pointed bow for greater internal space forward, a false flat deck for easier internal movement and to keep contents dry, a high bow to deflect spray, robust pontoons with three separate air compartments, paddles rather than oars and rowlocks,internal lifting points, rubbing strakes, storage for anchor and accessories and handles on the pontoons and bow. We’ll also fit top-of-the-line Beachmaster pneumatic wheels and two rod holders. We have a preference for a powder coatedalloy hull (being lighter and easier to repair), but will accept GRP all other things being equal.

We eliminate centre console optionsas in our view theytake up too much room in a 3 metre RHIB and add too much weight, complexity and expense.

I’ve had good experiences with Aquapro and Frank has with Quicksilver, so we make a short list including these plus Southern Pacific and Zodiac. Initially we weren’t aware ofAB and Seafarer and later add these to our list. All sellers we speakto are able to provide a complete package including outboard and are willing to negotiate deals.

Frank and I discuss design with Neil at Seafarer

Ruggedness largely relatesto selection of pontoon material and the current fourmainstream offerings are plasticised polyvinyl chloride (commonly known as pvc orvinyl), blends of pvc with thermoplastic polyurethane (TPU), blends of polychloroprene (commonly known as Neoprene) with chlorosulphonated polyethylene (commonly known as Hypalon) and lastly straight TPU.

In each case these materials are used to coat a polyester or polyamide (commonly known as nylon) fabric.Although there’s lotsof debate about the pros and cons of each material due to different product qualities and variations in design, manufacture and quality control,the above list represents anascending order of technical excellence. Manufacture and quality control are vitally important andwe’re aware of two successful New Zealand brands that encountered major problems when they switched production to China, eventually reverting to New Zealand manufacture.

Until recently the Neoprene/Hypalon blend was considered the gold standard, but opinion has largelyturnedtowards TPU taking that spot, in fact the US Navy conducted a study of pontoons in 2001 concluding “tubes constructed of TPU exhibit better key physical properties than tubes constructed of Hypalon … better tensile strength, tearing strength, puncture resistance and abrasion resistance.” It also has superior air retention, chemical (ie fuel) resistance and seams can be welded whereas Hypalon can only be glued.

Despite the above Frank and I have both experienced good results previouslywithRHIBs havingpvc pontoons and their life can be maximised by always using a storage cover and fitting chaps to provide the pontoons with extra ultra violet, abrasion and puncture resistance.

We’d been inclined towards Zodiac, their brand being synonymous with RHIBs, butthey only offered us RHIBs builtin Indonesia with GRP hulls and pvc pontoons and availability appeared to be an issue. Of the imported brands we’remost impressed by AB, produced in Belgium with an alloy hull and using a Neoprene/Hypalon blend for tubes. However wantinga few custom features addedwevisit local producer Seafarer Inflatables, based in Dairyflat north of Auckland where we’reimmediately impressed by owner Neil Curtling’senthusiasm and willingness to share his extensive knowledge based on 35 years in the industry. Seafareruse a unique hot air welding process and their productincorporatesall of the features we’re looking for and more, such as U-Deck providing a great cosmetic appearance and underfoot feel. They also produce for another well-known brand as well as repairingall types of inflatables and can produce pontoons using either a PVC/TPU blend, Hypalon or TPU. We’re also impressed by their 10 year warranty. Afterdiscussions with Neil wedecide to go a little larger than 3 metresand buy their SF340R, 3.4 metreslong with a generous beam of 1.8 metres. Although wewould have been happy with pontoons made from PVC/TPU we decide to go with the top of the line TPU, largely because this is the ultimate in durability and our RHIB is our life boatin a worst case scenario. This costs an additional $755 bringingthe price to $6,992. Neil’s attention to detail continues to impress, for example suggesting that he drill the mounting holes for wheels and rod holders in the alloy hull prior to its powder coating to minimise future corrosion.

Look for Part 2 shortly covering outboard and ancillary equipment selection and then Part 3 covering crane installation and RHIB performance.

Cruising update

It’s been great to get cruising again and with summer now underway this can only get better. 

It’s now official that La Nina weather conditions are expected this summer, bringing warmer than average sea and air temperatures (the seatemperature off Kawau is already 20.5d). The downside is La Nina also brings NE winds, increased rain and potentially some cyclonic conditions with the probability of increased thunderstorms. Thesecan be problematic due to sudden and sometimes severe wind direction shifts, so anchor with care to allow for this.

We’ve done two week-long cruises recently, one to the Ponui area and one to Mahurangi and Kawau.

Diane landed this monster 72cm snapper in 35 metres SE of Kawau

You can’t always get what you want

We’ve owned our 16 metreSalthouseSportFisher, Rapport, for two yearsnowand after 177nights aboard find her a capable and comfortable cruiser. But when you buy a pre-owned boat you inevitably make some compromises and a major one for us was not having a large RHIB. We really enjoy exploring areas around our anchorage and ideally wanted a RHIB at least three metres longwith a 15hp 4-stroke outboard and able to be lifted aboard usinga crane. Rapport came without a crane andwith an old Chinese built Takacatinflatable that we rubbished after a few weeks as it had toomany pontoon air leaks to be economically repaired. In any case we didn’t like the Takacat’s inflatable floor limiting movement in the RHIB.

It was December and we urgently needed a dinghy that two of us could easily lift onto ourforedeck cradle, sobought a new lightweight (33kg) Aquapro SLR 2.6m rigid-hulled inflatable andHonda 2.5hp 4-strokeair cooled outboard. We usedthe same outboard during our Med cruising years and found it very reliable and easy to start and lift.But for Rapport this was always a temporary solution and so aided by our best friend and long time boating companion, Frank, we started researching deck cranesand larger inflatables.

We knew this was going to be an expensive project and that making improvements to a boat doesn’t necessarily add value. Atrusted marine broker’s thoughts were that future potential buyers of Rapport would expect a vessel of this size to carry a substantial RHIB and crane, so adding these would increase her sales appeal and value. We didn’t need too much convincing and reassured byhis advice and the prospect of lots morefun ahead decided to proceed.

Finding a suitable crane

It would be possible to lift the new outboard fromthe RHIB using a simple transom-mounted hand-operated winch, unload the other gear and then pull the empty RHIB onto the foredeck by hand, but we’re getting a bit long in the tooth for that and want to be able to launch and retrievethe whole rigwith minimal effort.

The RHIB with its outboard, fuel and gear willweigh about 150kg so we need a24V DC powered crane with a safe working load of at least that. We find plenty of options for large cranes but few for smaller units.

Motor Yacht Services (MYS) are theNew Zealandagent for Brisbane-based Australian Davits and Cranes (ADC)and we find them very helpfulhaving fitted many ADCs with good results. MYS’s owner Dean Ryder checks Rapport and quotes $13,973 plus installation for their 350kgcapacity crane mounted on our starboard side with its standpipe passing through our master berth’s wardrobe down to the keel to support the load. Delivery was quoted as 8 weeks ex factory.

Oceanlift cranes are produced on a bespoke basis in Rotoruaand we find owner Mark Thomson also provides lots of information. Coincidentally the boat owner next to us in the marina is very happy with hisOceanlift. Mark visits Rapport andquotes $13,711 plus installation for his200kg capacitycrane with 6 weeks delivery.

Both units will suit us however the ADC’sadditional capacity will provide an extra safety margin, more future flexibility and enhancedresale value. These factorscombined with the fact that MYS install their ADC craneswhereas we need a separatecontractor to installthe Oceanlift lead us to choose ADC. We expect the installation to take around three days and to costto around $6-8,000.

Which RHIB will suit us best?

We’re looking for a rugged rigid-hulled RHIB about 3 metresin length with room for four adults,able to plane with at least two adults aboard using a 15hp outboard, with generous beam for lateral stability, a snub rather than pointed bow for greater internal space forward, a false flat deck for easier internal movement and to keep contents dry, a high bow to deflect spray, robust pontoons with three separate air compartments, paddles rather than oars and rowlocks,internal lifting points, rubbing strakes, storage for anchor and accessories and handles on the pontoons and bow. We’ll also fit top-of-the-line Beachmaster pneumatic wheels and two rod holders. We have a preference for a powder coatedalloy hull (being lighter and easier to repair), but will accept GRP all other things being equal.

We eliminate centre console optionsas in our view theytake up too much room in a 3 metre RHIB and add too much weight, complexity and expense.

I’ve had good experiences with Aquapro and Frank has with Quicksilver, so we make a short list including these plus Southern Pacific and Zodiac. Initially we weren’t aware ofAB and Seafarer and later add these to our list. All sellers we speakto are able to provide a complete package including outboard and are willing to negotiate deals.

Frank and I discuss design with Neil at Seafarer

Ruggedness largely relatesto selection of pontoon material and the current fourmainstream offerings are plasticised polyvinyl chloride (commonly known as pvc orvinyl), blends of pvc with thermoplastic polyurethane (TPU), blends of polychloroprene (commonly known as Neoprene) with chlorosulphonated polyethylene (commonly known as Hypalon) and lastly straight TPU.

In each case these materials are used to coat a polyester or polyamide (commonly known as nylon) fabric.Although there’s lotsof debate about the pros and cons of each material due to different product qualities and variations in design, manufacture and quality control,the above list represents anascending order of technical excellence. Manufacture and quality control are vitally important andwe’re aware of two successful New Zealand brands that encountered major problems when they switched production to China, eventually reverting to New Zealand manufacture.

Until recently the Neoprene/Hypalon blend was considered the gold standard, but opinion has largelyturnedtowards TPU taking that spot, in fact the US Navy conducted a study of pontoons in 2001 concluding “tubes constructed of TPU exhibit better key physical properties than tubes constructed of Hypalon … better tensile strength, tearing strength, puncture resistance and abrasion resistance.” It also has superior air retention, chemical (ie fuel) resistance and seams can be welded whereas Hypalon can only be glued.

Despite the above Frank and I have both experienced good results previouslywithRHIBs havingpvc pontoons and their life can be maximised by always using a storage cover and fitting chaps to provide the pontoons with extra ultra violet, abrasion and puncture resistance.

We’d been inclined towards Zodiac, their brand being synonymous with RHIBs, butthey only offered us RHIBs builtin Indonesia with GRP hulls and pvc pontoons and availability appeared to be an issue. Of the imported brands we’remost impressed by AB, produced in Belgium with an alloy hull and using a Neoprene/Hypalon blend for tubes. However wantinga few custom features addedwevisit local producer Seafarer Inflatables, based in Dairyflat north of Auckland where we’reimmediately impressed by owner Neil Curtling’senthusiasm and willingness to share his extensive knowledge based on 35 years in the industry. Seafareruse a unique hot air welding process and their productincorporatesall of the features we’re looking for and more, such as U-Deck providing a great cosmetic appearance and underfoot feel. They also produce for another well-known brand as well as repairingall types of inflatables and can produce pontoons using either a PVC/TPU blend, Hypalon or TPU. We’re also impressed by their 10 year warranty. Afterdiscussions with Neil wedecide to go a little larger than 3 metresand buy their SF340R, 3.4 metreslong with a generous beam of 1.8 metres. Although wewould have been happy with pontoons made from PVC/TPU we decide to go with the top of the line TPU, largely because this is the ultimate in durability and our RHIB is our life boatin a worst case scenario. This costs an additional $755 bringingthe price to $6,992. Neil’s attention to detail continues to impress, for example suggesting that he drill the mounting holes for wheels and rod holders in the alloy hull prior to its powder coating to minimise future corrosion.

Look for Part 2 shortly covering outboard and ancillary equipment selection and then Part 3 covering crane installation and RHIB performance.